the polls are showing that mitt romney is getting a significant boost. frankly, if the president is going to say, we need to stay the course with a stagnant economy, that's know going to be a wiping message, if governor romney continues to say, hey, i have a plan to make the economy recover faster. >> i guess, you are right that mitt romney had a plan that he is talking about. but the problem is that he is saying stuff that he is not backing up. >> he has a five-point plan -- >> excuse me. i did not interrupt you. do not interrupt me. the five-point plan has no substance, no basis. it has nothing to back it up. i being have a five-point plan i. that's not true -- >> how's mitt romney -- >> we are talking about job creation. >> eric: wait a minute, julie. >> the president doesn't have a plan. he is triing to say, let's stay the course. if you want to tout mediocrity in a stagnant economy, that's fine. the voters know we can do better. and mitt romney is saying, unlike the president, particularly with obamacare, i am principled but practical and i want to